(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1800]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[Sariputta]PB[Apophenic]WR[8k]BR[10k]DT[2010-06-10]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[Apophenic [10k\]: thank you :) have fun
]RE[W+Resign]
;B[pd]BL[1787.308]C[Sariputta [8k\]: Hi good game. Insei League - E
]
;W[dp]WL[1770.885]
;B[pp]BL[1781.678]
;W[dd]WL[1765.228]
;B[qj]BL[1778.782]
;W[cj]WL[1758.373]
;B[fq]BL[1776.286]
;W[cn]WL[1745.162]C[Apophenic [10k\]: especially bottom left :P
Sariputta [8k\]: before review, any specific question, or would you like to just go through the game?
Apophenic [10k\]: yes..i was frusterated by the bottom left. You were trying to peep and cover...and then the next move would be to chase me out of the top, thereby building a large framework
Apophenic [10k\]: i tried to not do what you wanted, and it backfired horribly
]
;B[dr]BL[1772.047]
;W[cq]WL[1739.405]
;B[iq]BL[1767.075]
;W[nc]WL[1716.867]
;B[qf]BL[1756.107]
;W[pb]WL[1708.839]
;B[qc]BL[1754.137]C[Sariputta [8k\]: and feel free to stop me anytime for ques.
Apophenic [10k\]: thanks
Sariputta [8k\]: reviews and lectures are the best part of insei league
]
;W[ld]WL[1703.01]
;B[fc]BL[1736.443]
;W[ic]WL[1672.595]
;B[ge]BL[1703.907]
;W[dg]WL[1623.074]
;B[je]BL[1673.771]
;W[nq]WL[1591.839]
;B[lq]BL[1626.718]
;W[qn]WL[1572.668]
;B[oo]BL[1624.353]
;W[qq]WL[1565.024]
;B[pq]BL[1617.42]
;W[pr]WL[1542.213]
;B[or]BL[1612.136]
;W[qr]WL[1538.074]
;B[oq]BL[1606.049]
;W[qp]WL[1534.312]
;B[mo]BL[1601.659]
;W[hp]WL[1510.87]
(;B[fp]BL[1581.568]C[Sariputta [8k\]: middle game joseki mistake
Apophenic [10k\]: makes me wonder if the top invasion was a bad idea
]
;W[hq]WL[1496.547]
;B[ip]BL[1572.777]
;W[go]WL[1466.804]
(;B[fr]BL[1529.837]C[Sariputta [8k\]: what were you hoping with F2?
Sariputta [8k\]: i think this was a bad move
Apophenic [10k\]: i misread a monkey jump
Apophenic [10k\]: i thought i could pass you
Sariputta [8k\]: if you wanted to come in H2 is better
]
;W[fo]WL[1444.302]
(;B[is]BL[1524.138]
;W[hr]WL[1432.53]
;B[hs]BL[1520.016]
;W[ir]WL[1428.452]C[Sariputta [8k\]: J1 was severe mistake
]
;B[jr]BL[1509.758]
;W[gs]WL[1414.089]
;B[ho]BL[1508.616]C[Sariputta [8k\]: now black gets nothing
]
;W[io]WL[1362.344]
;B[hn]BL[1504.146]
;W[in]WL[1282.205]
;B[hm]BL[1500.262]
;W[js]WL[1274.659]
;B[kr]BL[1496.296]
;W[gp]WL[1267.299]
;B[im]BL[1477.111]
;W[lf]WL[1210.465]C[Sariputta [8k\]: if you're scared of dying, before you run into the open, look for a base
]
(;B[jg]BL[1459.876]C[Sariputta [8k\]: what were you hoping with Kq13?
Sariputta [8k\]: K13*
Apophenic [10k\]: k 13 is just bad shape.  G13 is probably better
Sariputta [8k\]: what are you hoping to get out of these moves?
Apophenic [10k\]: I wanted to keep running straight down
Sariputta [8k\]: i see
Sariputta [8k\]: if you wanted to run, make a base first
]
;W[if]WL[1182.951]
;B[ie]BL[1454.208]
;W[jf]WL[1175.261]
;B[hf]BL[1448.843]
;W[ig]WL[1161.805]
;B[gg]BL[1444.595]
;W[hd]WL[1151.234]
;B[he]BL[1438.91]
;W[eb]WL[1139.655]LB[dd:A][ld:B][jf:D][cj:C]C[Sariputta [8k\]: once I got E18, black is baseless
Sariputta [8k\]: white is safe on the corner, top side, and left side
Sariputta [8k\]: if you considered thses as 3 or 4 groups
Sariputta [8k\]: black isn't attacking any of them
Sariputta [8k\]: you can't attack something that's alive, you can only reduce
Apophenic [10k\]: the base would have helped
Sariputta [8k\]: and you're fighting to stay alive
Apophenic [10k\]: i see
Apophenic [10k\]: yes, thats why i didn't pursue fights. Mainly tried to get out
Sariputta [8k\]: were you planning on fighting or were you trying to reduce, or didn't expect what happened at all?
Apophenic [10k\]: I make the same mistake in most games
Sariputta [8k\]: me too
]
;B[gd]BL[1428.984]
;W[ke]WL[1129.759]
;B[kg]BL[1425.367]
;W[kf]WL[1119.498]C[Apophenic [10k\]: i focus too much on moyo and not enough on influence
]
(;B[kd]BL[1333.069]C[Sariputta [8k\]: L16 was a bad move
Sariputta [8k\]: slow move
Apophenic [10k\]: so normally i would let you build a big frame work, and by the time i am 'ready' for it, it is too late
Sariputta [8k\]: me too
Sariputta [8k\]: D:
Apophenic [10k\]: hehe
Apophenic [10k\]: so at least it was new mistakes this time :D
Sariputta [8k\]: i usually lose becuase i don't have enough territory cuz i don't fight enough >_<
Sariputta [8k\]: lol
Sariputta [8k\]: instead of L16
Apophenic [10k\]: the top is urgent
Apophenic [10k\]: i wasn't thinking of making a base :/ I didn't want to die with 1 eye..hehe. I had my priorities backwards
Sariputta [8k\]: yes, top is still big and urgent it's just that L16 was not the best move
Sariputta [8k\]: i see
]
;W[kc]WL[1084.595]C[Sariputta [8k\]: true, it is urgent but black ends in gote
]
;B[jd]BL[1328.652]C[Apophenic [10k\]: better to run, because the top can't help attack C
]
;W[jc]WL[1067.475]
;B[hi]BL[1310.91]
;W[ji]WL[1046.816]
;B[hk]BL[1305.415]
;W[gj]WL[1018.358]
;B[hj]BL[1302.593]
(;W[gl]WL[1011.927]C[Apophenic [10k\]: i was hoping you would be greedy. i was baiting a little and hoping for luck
]
;B[gk]BL[1277.79]
;W[fk]WL[1004.496]LB[fj:A][fl:B]C[Sariputta [8k\]: I made a mistake here and black did good
Sariputta [8k\]: cutting points A and B
Sariputta [8k\]: what W sould've done i think
]
;B[hl]BL[1274.406]
;W[gi]WL[996.092]
;B[hh]BL[1269.287]
;W[qh]WL[980.039]
;B[qb]BL[1266.109]C[Sariputta [8k\]: i'm not sure....but i think you should've answered R12
Sariputta [8k\]: but R18 is  huge *end* game move
Apophenic [10k\]: You can still cut
Sariputta [8k\]: maybe a little early?
Apophenic [10k\]: it is an alive move
]
;W[ql]WL[965.781]
;B[ph]BL[1248.878]
;W[qi]WL[959.939]
;B[pi]BL[1246.623]
;W[rj]WL[955.487]
;B[pk]BL[1242.653]C[Apophenic [10k\]: if you get sente later and reduce the top, i run out of space for eyes
]
;W[qk]WL[951.584]C[Sariputta [8k\]: yeah, better to be safe than sorry
]
(;B[pj]BL[1240.281]
;W[mi]WL[943.984]TR[fc][gd][jd][kd][ge][he][ie][je][hf][gg][hh][ph][hi][pi][hj][pj][qj][gk][hk][pk][hl][hm][im][hn][ho]C[Apophenic [10k\]: they are miai, but it isn't they aren't equal options
Sariputta [8k\]: N11 was a big move for white
Apophenic [10k\]: yes..i had too many weak groups to care for
Sariputta [8k\]: after N11 the game is over
Apophenic [10k\]: yes
Apophenic [10k\]: i was hoping for a mistakes..when w locked it in, it was over
Sariputta [8k\]: yeah, you had too many weak groups, but the main problem 
Sariputta [8k\]: was heavy shapes and inefficiency
Sariputta [8k\]: those stones are a dumpling shape
Sariputta [8k\]: and almost in a line
Sariputta [8k\]: mkaes no territory
Sariputta [8k\]: they were suppose to be used for moyo but
Sariputta [8k\]: ended up being more surrounded by white's stones
Sariputta [8k\]: do you see the bad shape i'm talking about?
Apophenic [10k\]: yes, but it was unavoidable after the no-base mistake
Sariputta [8k\]: yes, the game just got tough from those 2 early mistakes in the lower left and top left
Apophenic [10k\]: abandoning the dumpling is game over too
]
;B[pl]BL[1221.322]
;W[pm]WL[936.825]
;B[om]BL[1201.541]
;W[nl]WL[920.261]
;B[ol]BL[1192.75]
;W[kn]WL[909.418]
;B[jm]BL[1175.265]
;W[kk]WL[901.697]
;B[jn]BL[1159.021]
;W[km]WL[894.661]
;B[qg]BL[1119.211]
;W[of]WL[876.237]
;B[fl]BL[1113.409]
;W[el]WL[872.698]
;B[fj]BL[1099.067]
;W[fm]WL[865.118]
;B[fi]BL[1097.181]
;W[ej]WL[858.404]
;B[df]BL[1072.599]
;W[cf]WL[850.141]
;B[de]BL[1067.685]
;W[ce]WL[846.669]
;B[ed]BL[1059.956]
;W[dc]WL[829.837]
;B[ef]BL[1056.988]
;W[eg]WL[822.143]
;B[fg]BL[1050.683]
;W[ei]WL[817.737]
;B[fh]BL[1046.511]
;W[ko]WL[796.593]
;B[jo]BL[1036.852]
;W[kp]WL[792.101]
;B[lp]BL[1026.226]
;W[ob]WL[780.489]
;B[nk]BL[940.842]
;W[ml]WL[772.542]
;B[ne]BL[925.913]
;W[oe]WL[756.456]
;B[nf]BL[918.925]
;W[ng]WL[746.821]
;B[od]BL[914.613]
;W[nd]WL[743.18]
;B[og]BL[872.241]
;W[me]WL[733.623]
;B[nh]BL[870.022]
;W[mg]WL[729.163]
;B[mh]BL[859.368]
;W[lh]WL[725.625]
;B[lg]BL[857.275]
;W[mf]WL[719.604]C[Sariputta [8k\]: quick review?
Apophenic [10k\]: thank you :)
Apophenic [10k\]: i would love it
])
(;B[li]
;W[pj]
;B[oj]C[Sariputta [8k\]: you had to give up the one stone
Sariputta [8k\]: but still the game is tough
Apophenic [10k\]: i am not sure it helps
Sariputta [8k\]: ok, that's all, any questions?
Apophenic [10k\]: no, thank you for all the help :)
Sariputta [8k\]: np
Apophenic [10k\]: maybe we can do it again soon :)
Sariputta [8k\]: sure, anytime
Apophenic [10k\]: Give me abit to study some
Apophenic [10k\]: thanks :)
Sariputta [8k\]: and we can just play for fun too
Sariputta [8k\]: doesn't have to be league games
Apophenic [10k\]: wonderful :) thank you
Apophenic [10k\]: might as well get some credit for playing though while we can
Sariputta [8k\]: yeah
Sariputta [8k\]: if we play more than 4
Sariputta [8k\]: oh yeah
Sariputta [8k\]: there's also a friendship match this saturday i think
Apophenic [10k\]: I saw that.
Sariputta [8k\]: breakfasts reviews all lost tournement games for free
Apophenic [10k\]: ahh
Sariputta [8k\]: and it doesn't affect our win rate in the league
Apophenic [10k\]: I was going to pass, but I might reconsider now :P
Sariputta [8k\]: 'nothing to lose 
Apophenic [10k\]: I am not worried about the win rate, but a reviewed game is appealing
Apophenic [10k\]: yeah
Sariputta [8k\]: but pride D:
Apophenic [10k\]: hahha
Sariputta [8k\]: we lost to the Polish last week
Sariputta [8k\]: D:
Apophenic [10k\]: my pride is long gone. I have been beaten bloody for awhile :P
Sariputta [8k\]: and btw i'm a girl
Apophenic [10k\]: ok :)
Apophenic [10k\]: Isn't Sariputta a guy?:)
Sariputta [8k\]: yeah, i'm just his fan
Sariputta [8k\]: see you around
Apophenic [10k\]: I don't too much
Apophenic [10k\]: adios :)
Sariputta [8k\]: bye
]))
(;W[gi]TR[hh]C[Sariputta [8k\]: i should've threatened to disconnect the whole group
]
;B[hh]
;W[gl]
;B[gk]
;W[fk]C[Sariputta [8k\]: my bad
]))
(;B[hi])
(;B[pm])
(;B[cl]C[Sariputta [8k\]: bigger moves
Apophenic [10k\]: right
Sariputta [8k\]: but i don't know which is the biggers :p
Sariputta [8k\]: biggest*
])
(;B[ec]C[Sariputta [8k\]: if concerned, you can play E17
Sariputta [8k\]: that's sente
]
;W[dc]
;B[fb]
;W[db]
;B[hc]
;W[id]
;B[ib]LB[hb:A]C[Apophenic [10k\]: ok
Sariputta [8k\]: if you think there is a cut there, there isn;t
]
;W[hb]C[Apophenic [10k\]: right
]
;B[jc]
(;W[jd])
(;W[gc]
;B[jd]
;W[hc]
;B[ha]C[Sariputta [8k\]: tesuji D:
])))
(;B[db]
;W[cc]LB[hb:C][gg:B][jg:A]C[Apophenic [10k\]: ok
Sariputta [8k\]: A and B are both ok but D18 is a key move
Sariputta [8k\]: i think
Sariputta [8k\]: I'm no dan :p
Apophenic [10k\]: hehe
]))
(;B[hr]C[Apophenic [10k\]: ok
Sariputta [8k\]: H2 again, there is no cut now
]
;W[gr]
(;B[ir])
(;B[gq]
;W[ir]
;B[gs]C[Sariputta [8k\]: black is safe and gets the corner
Sariputta [8k\]: key turning point in the game
])))
(;B[hr]
;W[gr]
;B[ir]
;W[gq]
;B[gs]
;W[fs]
;B[hs]
;W[fr]
;B[ho]C[Sariputta [8k\]: White is heavy and Black has sente
Sariputta [8k\]: and white's moyo is not so big
Apophenic [10k\]: looks much better
]))
(;B[hq]
;W[fp]
;B[gp]
;W[go]
;B[gq]LB[fo:A][ho:B]C[Sariputta [8k\]: this is joseki and then white has A or B miai
Sariputta [8k\]: black takes bottom side
Apophenic [10k\]: what would you do in my case?
Apophenic [10k\]: this is great for w...now if you chase the top, I am in big trouble
Sariputta [8k\]: You get to eat one of the stones
]
;W[fo]
;B[ho]C[Sariputta [8k\]: and then the ladder is good for black
Apophenic [10k\]: it still looks like w profits...you can keep pushing on top and bottom
]
;W[ip]TR[dg][cj][cn]C[Sariputta [8k\]: yeah, this joseki is a little good for white on the outside
Sariputta [8k\]: because w has those stones, the joseki is good for white
Sariputta [8k\]: otherwide it should be even
Sariputta [8k\]: otherwise*
Apophenic [10k\]: right
]))
