(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1800]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[PonKiske]PB[elligain]WR[7k]BR[5k]DT[2011-09-28]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[elligain [5k\]: have a nice game
PonKiske [7k\]: You too
]RE[B+Resign]
;B[pd]BL[1784.762]
;W[dd]WL[1796.948]C[elligain [5k\]: here, i know you attack well
elligain [5k\]: otherelse, you dont pley this
elligain [5k\]: so, if i accept
elligain [5k\]: that means i attack well too
elligain [5k\]: and you have to be carefull
PonKiske [7k\]: :)
elligain [5k\]: so make the base of life
elligain [5k\]: before attack ^^
PonKiske [7k\]: Ok
]
;B[dq]BL[1769.914]
;W[pp]WL[1792.876]
;B[dj]BL[1765.148]
;W[jq]WL[1788.729]
;B[qn]BL[1755.394]
;W[qo]WL[1781.926]
;B[pn]BL[1752.987]
;W[nq]WL[1779.368]
;B[pj]BL[1743.201]TR[pj][pn][qn]SQ[pd]C[elligain [5k\]: i dont see any difference on the game
PonKiske [7k\]: k17
elligain [5k\]: with or without ythis move
elligain [5k\]: strong
elligain [5k\]: weak
elligain [5k\]: you have to attack the weak stone
elligain [5k\]: the weakest is q16 i think
elligain [5k\]: perhaps d3
elligain [5k\]: but, here you pass
elligain [5k\]: or this
elligain [5k\]: you take the free space
elligain [5k\]: and attack my weak tone
elligain [5k\]: stone
PonKiske [7k\]: Iss
PonKiske [7k\]: started by the bad move at C13
]
(;W[cg]WL[1759.309]C[elligain [5k\]: i dont think this is a good move
elligain [5k\]: because
elligain [5k\]: d16 is not strong with c13
PonKiske [7k\]: I see
]
;B[jd]BL[1739.137]C[elligain [5k\]: you not take it
elligain [5k\]: so i do ^^
]
(;W[pg]WL[1756.13]C[elligain [5k\]: here
PonKiske [7k\]: which made you moyo huge meaning I had to invade
elligain [5k\]: you dont attck the weak
elligain [5k\]: but the strong
PonKiske [7k\]: n16
elligain [5k\]: it will be really hard for you
]
;B[qf]BL[1732.475]
;W[qg]WL[1753.39]C[elligain [5k\]: you see the difference
PonKiske [7k\]: yes
elligain [5k\]: now you have a weak stone
elligain [5k\]: q&3
elligain [5k\]: to attack
elligain [5k\]: on the other way you would have a strong stone
PonKiske [7k\]: a problem that i create when I made two groups... 
]
;B[pf]BL[1726.931]
;W[oj]WL[1742.738]
;B[oi]BL[1723.188]LB[pg:2][oj:1]C[elligain [5k\]: i dont know if my move is good
elligain [5k\]: but....
elligain [5k\]: you have 2 groups now
elligain [5k\]: and i have lots of stones around
elligain [5k\]: so i think i can
]
;W[oh]WL[1737.407]
;B[pi]BL[1714.728]
;W[of]WL[1731.338]
;B[oe]BL[1711.753]TR[oj]C[elligain [5k\]: this stone is useless
elligain [5k\]: my shape is bad
elligain [5k\]: but you have pass one time in my moyo
elligain [5k\]: so it is bad for you
elligain [5k\]: and the other side is not living
]
;W[nf]WL[1728.807]
;B[nh]BL[1706.786]
;W[qi]WL[1716.814]
;B[qj]BL[1703.949]
;W[rf]WL[1709.895]
;B[re]BL[1699.704]
;W[rg]WL[1702.84]
;B[ri]BL[1691.037]
;W[rd]WL[1697.673]C[elligain [5k\]: you can do this when you know you re living
elligain [5k\]: are
elligain [5k\]: not before
elligain [5k\]: because s16 dont give any eyes
]
;B[qd]BL[1676.757]
;W[se]WL[1692.282]
;B[qe]BL[1673.479]
;W[rc]WL[1689.388]
;B[qb]BL[1670.803]
;W[qc]WL[1686.676]
;B[pb]BL[1663.06]
;W[pc]WL[1684.837]
;B[oc]BL[1661.524]LB[oc:C][jd:A][oe:B][og:1]C[elligain [5k\]: this is bad
elligain [5k\]: it is yose
elligain [5k\]: no eyes
elligain [5k\]: im strong around
]
;W[rb]WL[1673.954]
;B[ra]BL[1659.146]
;W[nd]WL[1669.313]
;B[od]BL[1656.781]
;W[ne]WL[1667.444]
;B[mc]BL[1651.874]
;W[sb]WL[1661.995]
;B[sd]BL[1648.582]C[elligain [5k\]: this is sente
]
;W[nc]WL[1651.24]
;B[nb]BL[1646.351]C[PonKiske [7k\]: yeah...
]
;W[md]WL[1608.342]TR[dj][dq]C[PonKiske [7k\]: Yes
elligain [5k\]: this is a very bad shape
elligain [5k\]: you never attack it ^^
PonKiske [7k\]: Was too busy making my stuff live...
]
(;B[lc]BL[1640.555]
;W[mg]WL[1604.911]C[elligain [5k\]: but as you are not living
elligain [5k\]: i can wait
]
;B[sf]BL[1632.69]C[elligain [5k\]: this is a bad move
elligain [5k\]: i should wait
elligain [5k\]: but....
elligain [5k\]: i think this is enoug
elligain [5k\]: and even with one more move
PonKiske [7k\]: ok
elligain [5k\]: you are not living
elligain [5k\]: before attack, you should be strong
elligain [5k\]: you attack well
elligain [5k\]: but, you dont have the base of life
]
;W[mh]WL[1582.222]
;B[mi]BL[1629.435]
;W[ng]WL[1578.791]C[elligain [5k\]: se
elligain [5k\]: see
]
;B[ni]BL[1627.26]
;W[ph]WL[1576.585]
;B[kh]BL[1619.533]
;W[kg]WL[1574.666]
;B[jg]BL[1617.745]LB[dj:1][dq:2]C[elligain [5k\]: here
PonKiske [7k\]: Terrible move on my part
elligain [5k\]: i dont want kill you
PonKiske [7k\]: Just build a wall
elligain [5k\]: even if i can
elligain [5k\]: yes
elligain [5k\]: 1-2 is bad
elligain [5k\]: and weak
PonKiske [7k\]: Would you mind one more game? 
elligain [5k\]: yes
PonKiske [7k\]: Yes you would mind or yes you will play one?
elligain [5k\]: heu... im not british ^^
PonKiske [7k\]: hehe
elligain [5k\]: can you explain your sentence ?
PonKiske [7k\]: Sorry... my sentence didn't make sense
elligain [5k\]: i dont understand
elligain [5k\]: ok ^^
PonKiske [7k\]: :)
PonKiske [7k\]: sorry
elligain [5k\]: ^^
PonKiske [7k\]: Where are you from?
elligain [5k\]: france
elligain [5k\]: and you ?
PonKiske [7k\]: US, but I live in China
elligain [5k\]: nice
elligain [5k\]: i woud like to do a trip
PonKiske [7k\]: In my opinion Qingdao is one of the best cities
PonKiske [7k\]: So another game? 
elligain [5k\]: i dont even know the name
elligain [5k\]: ok
PonKiske [7k\]: You set up...
]
;W[kf]WL[1572.049]
;B[jf]BL[1615.734]C[PonKiske [7k\]: oooohhh mistake there
]
;W[ke]WL[1534.409]
;B[je]BL[1578.445]
;W[lh]WL[1532.623]
;B[li]BL[1575.686]
;W[lf]WL[1529.502]
;B[fd]BL[1566.025]
;W[fc]WL[1526.241]
;B[gc]BL[1564.176]
;W[fb]WL[1523.954]
;B[gb]BL[1562.736]
;W[eg]WL[1518.211]
;B[cn]BL[1546.731]
;W[cl]WL[1509.459]
;B[cj]BL[1542.896]
;W[el]WL[1506.628]
;B[fj]BL[1541.55]
;W[gl]WL[1504.787]
;B[fg]BL[1533.957]
;W[ef]WL[1502.067]
;B[ff]BL[1532.361]
;W[fh]WL[1498.538]
;B[eh]BL[1530.716]
;W[dh]WL[1493.814]
;B[ei]BL[1528.81]
;W[gh]WL[1491.386]
;B[ee]BL[1526.378]
;W[de]WL[1487.785]
;B[hj]BL[1515.076]
;W[dn]WL[1482.449]
;B[do]BL[1512.964]
;W[ki]WL[1448.172]
;B[jh]BL[1510.447]
;W[jj]WL[1444.445]
;B[jk]BL[1504.203]
;W[kk]WL[1442.503]
;B[jl]BL[1502.396]
;W[kl]WL[1440.764]
;B[km]BL[1499.24]
;W[lm]WL[1435.47]
;B[kn]BL[1496.743]
;W[mn]WL[1433.321]
;B[ll]BL[1494.637]
;W[lk]WL[1419.409]
;B[ml]BL[1493.335]
;W[mk]WL[1417.098]
;B[nl]BL[1491.992]
;W[nk]WL[1415.212]
;B[ol]BL[1488.391]
;W[jm]WL[1402.164]
;B[im]BL[1486.021]
;W[jn]WL[1400.192]
;B[jo]BL[1484.508]
;W[ik]WL[1387.241]
;B[il]BL[1479.4]
;W[hk]WL[1357.446]
;B[hi]BL[1438.556]
;W[ij]WL[1354.696]
;B[en]BL[1428.61]
;W[fq]WL[1346.758]
;B[gp]BL[1417.044]
;W[gq]WL[1343.213]
;B[hp]BL[1369.546]
;W[gn]WL[1307.232]
;B[dm]BL[1342.674]
;W[ho]WL[1268.854]
;B[io]BL[1331.869]
;W[fp]WL[1267.055]
;B[fo]BL[1327.026]
;W[hn]WL[1211.083]
;B[in]BL[1322.96]
;W[go]WL[1207.777]
;B[ip]BL[1307.33]
;W[fn]WL[1205.023]
;B[eo]BL[1305.673]
;W[em]WL[1187.764]
;B[dl]BL[1208.912]
;W[hq]WL[1147.226]
;B[ln]BL[1204.637]
;W[mm]WL[1145.041]
;B[mo]BL[1203.12]
;W[ek]WL[1079.407]
;B[ej]BL[1194.328]
;W[gj]WL[1039.717]
;B[gi]BL[1188.496]
;W[fk]WL[1032.186]
;B[fi]BL[1156.274]C[PonKiske [7k\]: thanks
elligain [5k\]: thanks for the game
PonKiske [7k\]: two good whoopings you have given me
elligain [5k\]: yes...
elligain [5k\]: the begining was too bd for you
])
(;B[sf]C[elligain [5k\]: this is enoug for me
]))
(;W[co])
(;W[cn]LB[cg:B][dj:1][dq:2][jq:A]C[PonKiske [7k\]: Yes...
elligain [5k\]: this is really bad for me
elligain [5k\]: 2 weak groups
elligain [5k\]: A is very strong
elligain [5k\]: you never use it in the game
elligain [5k\]: B is.....
elligain [5k\]: strong even if i dislike the shape ^^
PonKiske [7k\]: hehe
elligain [5k\]: but it is not me who play
PonKiske [7k\]: I seem to have played two game against you that were terrible
elligain [5k\]: so it is strong
elligain [5k\]: yes
elligain [5k\]: i am very bad on the territory
elligain [5k\]: but really strong on figth
elligain [5k\]: against a 1d, i can win if it is a figth
PonKiske [7k\]: O.o
elligain [5k\]: i dont have any chance if it is a territory game
elligain [5k\]: see what i say in the comment
elligain [5k\]: i see the weak group
elligain [5k\]: so i attack it
PonKiske [7k\]: Yes
elligain [5k\]: see after in the game
]))
(;W[fd]LB[ed:1][fd:2][gd:3][hd:4]C[elligain [5k\]: if you want a strong move, this one is better
elligain [5k\]: 5 space
elligain [5k\]: lots of space
elligain [5k\]: so better direction
])
(;W[mc]C[elligain [5k\]: but this
])
(;W[nc]))
