(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1800]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[Starstorm3]PB[smonds3]WR[4d]BR[3d]DT[2013-04-11]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: good luck
smonds3 [3d\]: hello
smonds3 [3d\]: enjoy the game
Starstorm3 [4d\]: can i take cntrl?
smonds3 [3d\]: yes
Starstorm3 [4d\]: you want me audio or txt?
smonds3 [3d\]: txt
]RE[W+Resign]
;B[pd]BL[1791.19]
;W[cp]WL[1798.173]C[smonds3 [3d\]: gf sleeping
]
;B[pp]BL[1779.062]
;W[dc]WL[1795.323]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: ic
]
;B[eq]BL[1773.136]
;W[do]WL[1771.401]
;B[iq]BL[1689.482]
;W[nc]WL[1765.784]
;B[de]BL[1670.67]
;W[qf]WL[1701.311]
;B[oe]BL[1667.407]
;W[qc]WL[1695.518]
;B[pg]BL[1665.308]
;W[pc]WL[1648.983]
;B[cc]BL[1658.815]
;W[cb]WL[1645.264]
;B[cd]BL[1656.889]
;W[eb]WL[1616.255]
;B[ci]BL[1653.718]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: pretty normal opening
Starstorm3 [4d\]: i thought
]
;W[ck]WL[1609.067]C[smonds3 [3d\]: so seems fair
]
(;B[qn]BL[1499.781]C[smonds3 [3d\]: all normal 
smonds3 [3d\]: seems even ish
Starstorm3 [4d\]: yea
Starstorm3 [4d\]: i cant say im winning
smonds3 [3d\]: black faster white solid
]
;W[pf]WL[1590.421]
;B[md]BL[1494.481]
;W[nd]WL[1557.183]
;B[ng]BL[1441.194]
;W[og]WL[1549.136]
;B[oh]BL[1388.281]
;W[of]WL[1547.535]
;B[nh]BL[1385.795]
;W[qi]WL[1537.668]C[smonds3 [3d\]: good for white here...
Starstorm3 [4d\]: i was happy here i suppose
Starstorm3 [4d\]: yea
smonds3 [3d\]: just tried to stay light
]
(;B[gd]BL[1377.454]C[smonds3 [3d\]: and i get kinda foolish shape
Starstorm3 [4d\]: big move
Starstorm3 [4d\]: but i think F17 is standard?
smonds3 [3d\]: i have no position at top so this isn't good
smonds3 [3d\]: ctrl?
]
(;W[hc]WL[1511.98]
(;B[hd]BL[1274.961]
;W[ic]WL[1500.791]
;B[id]BL[1240.823]
;W[di]WL[1474.923]C[smonds3 [3d\]: this is aji keshi
]
;B[cj]BL[1099.646]C[smonds3 [3d\]: then
Starstorm3 [4d\]: yea
Starstorm3 [4d\]: i was thrilled
Starstorm3 [4d\]: when you pushed
]
;W[dj]WL[1471.825]
;B[bk]BL[1097.42]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: so here i decide to get all aggressive
smonds3 [3d\]: this pattern i saw in a sakata eio/go seigen game
]
;W[ch]WL[1422.59]C[smonds3 [3d\]: similar type of fight
]
;B[cl]BL[1046.538]
;W[dk]WL[1419.849]
;B[dl]BL[1044.708]
(;W[bl]WL[1269.114]C[smonds3 [3d\]: and same shape
Starstorm3 [4d\]: i was so unsure here
Starstorm3 [4d\]: which way to cut first
smonds3 [3d\]: only way here
Starstorm3 [4d\]: both are scary for different reasons
smonds3 [3d\]: your ctrl
]
;B[bm]BL[1020.021]
;W[bj]WL[1267.751]
;B[al]BL[1018.719]
;W[bi]WL[1267.158]
;B[cr]BL[1001.964]
;W[fo]WL[1253.054]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: fun fighting here
]
;B[fl]BL[995.327]
;W[gq]WL[1218.516]
;B[fp]BL[791.5]
;W[ep]WL[1205.138]
;B[gp]BL[642.551]
;W[dq]WL[1178.696]
(;B[dr]BL[557.396]
;W[fq]WL[1162.233]C[smonds3 [3d\]: i have ponnuki
]
;B[er]BL[536.788]
;W[hp]WL[1135.863]
;B[go]BL[533.859]
;W[hq]WL[1132.091]
;B[ho]BL[520.403]
;W[ip]WL[1105.096]
;B[bp]BL[482.48]C[smonds3 [3d\]: must use it!
]
;W[fn]WL[1070.398]
;B[gm]BL[415.825]
;W[bo]WL[1039.149]
(;B[cq]BL[364.882]
;W[bq]WL[928.17]
;B[dp]BL[361.274]
;W[ee]WL[787.362]
;B[eo]BL[240.524]
;W[ef]WL[773.922]
;B[ed]BL[190.325]
;W[dd]WL[747.629]
;B[ec]BL[187.518]
;W[db]WL[746.449]
;B[df]BL[184.528]
;W[eg]WL[719.382]
;B[bb]BL[157.245]
;W[ba]WL[701.634]
;B[ac]BL[35.12]
;W[be]WL[671.071]
(;B[ca]BL[12.984]C[smonds3 [3d\]: bah
]
;W[bd]WL[573.838]C[smonds3 [3d\]: yes. i messed order
smonds3 [3d\]: ah. its terrible
Starstorm3 [4d\]: hmm
Starstorm3 [4d\]: still might be something for you
smonds3 [3d\]: i think it would have been a real one way ko
smonds3 [3d\]: but at least a ko
]
;B[bc]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[fb]WL[514.624]
;B[bg]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[cg]WL[490.705]
;B[jq]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[jp]WL[484.81]
;B[kq]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[kp]WL[472.918]
;B[lq]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[lp]WL[431.562]
;B[mq]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[lm]WL[380.343]
;B[mn]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[jm]WL[371.188]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: i dont think N6 is that amazing for you
smonds3 [3d\]: assesment?
smonds3 [3d\]: yes. its true
Starstorm3 [4d\]: of the overall board?
smonds3 [3d\]: but on territory now.
smonds3 [3d\]: if no ko aji in left
smonds3 [3d\]: its close
Starstorm3 [4d\]: yea
smonds3 [3d\]: but if it is ko
Starstorm3 [4d\]: but considering aji
smonds3 [3d\]: then...
Starstorm3 [4d\]: im ahead
smonds3 [3d\]: and i wasted my ko aji
]
;B[mm]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ll]WL[357.137]
;B[jc]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[jb]WL[354.124]
;B[kb]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[kc]WL[343.419]
;B[bf]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[cf]WL[341.506]
;B[gc]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[gb]WL[314.145]
;B[ce]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[bh]WL[310.783]
;B[jd]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ib]WL[308.998]
;B[kj]BL[30]OB[1]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: this felt a little awkward perhaps
]
;W[ml]WL[266.756]
;B[om]BL[30]OB[1]
(;W[mj]WL[259.737]
;B[qk]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[pq]WL[233.514]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: totally spaced
Starstorm3 [4d\]: that i couldnt do my tesuji
Starstorm3 [4d\]: to live
]
;B[qq]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[qr]WL[217.738]
;B[oq]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[pr]WL[210.952]
;B[rq]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[qp]WL[172.52]
;B[or]BL[30]OB[1]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: stupid N3
Starstorm3 [4d\]: annoying
]
;W[ap]WL[122.485]
;B[br]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[bn]WL[42.322]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: cant believe i missed tesuji 101 in the lower right lol
]
;B[an]BL[30]OB[1]C[smonds3 [3d\]: ;)
smonds3 [3d\]: well i've made a few mistakes
smonds3 [3d\]: time...
]
;W[en]WL[15.92]
;B[cn]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ep]WL[13.959]
;B[dq]BL[30]OB[1]C[smonds3 [3d\]: i'm so bad in time.
]
;W[gn]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[hn]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[hm]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[eo]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[op]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[po]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ep]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[im]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[hl]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[in]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[il]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[eo]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[nq]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[nr]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ep]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[jn]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[kn]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[eo]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[mr]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[ep]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ns]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[np]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[os]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[oo]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[rp]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[rr]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[rs]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[jl]BL[30]OB[1]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: hmmm
Starstorm3 [4d\]: if i sacrifice...
Starstorm3 [4d\]: are you winning?
]
(;W[km]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[jk]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[dn]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[cm]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[co]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[ar]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ok]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[ps]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[qs]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[sq]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[sp]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[sr]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ss]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[pj]BL[30]OB[1]C[smonds3 [3d\]: its really a silly game
smonds3 [3d\]: i shouldn't play so late.
smonds3 [3d\]: sorry
]
;W[oj]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[pi]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[li]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[jh]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[lg]WL[30]OW[1]C[smonds3 [3d\]: should we add 5 minutes each?
Starstorm3 [4d\]: sure im ok with that
]
;B[kh]BL[108.189]
;W[lh]WL[172.086]
;B[mf]BL[104.659]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: bah
Starstorm3 [4d\]: totally missed this one!
smonds3 [3d\]: i shoujld be able to get more than what happened
]
;W[ir]WL[147.167]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: no need to be fancy
]
(;B[gs]BL[91.79]C[smonds3 [3d\]: maybe h1?
]
;W[hs]WL[115.502]
;B[fr]BL[76.591]
;W[ls]WL[54.92]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: yeesh what a pretty ko connection for me 0.o
]
;B[gr]BL[8.298]
;W[hr]WL[50.546]
;B[js]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[jr]WL[46.025]
;B[kr]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[ks]WL[44.172]
;B[lr]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[is]WL[42.291]
;B[ms]BL[30]OB[4]C[smonds3 [3d\]: Luckily I burned a handful of ko threats this game for no reason ;)
]
;W[lf]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[le]BL[30]OB[4]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: nah no worries i foolishly let my group get into this ko
]
;W[mr]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[ae]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[ag]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[ms]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[jf]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[if]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[mr]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[ln]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[ko]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[ms]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[ke]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[kd]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[mr]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[ad]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[da]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[ms]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[ig]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[jg]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[mr]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[dg]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[eh]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[ms]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[hf]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[ie]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[mr]WL[30]OW[3]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: this might be one of the strangest games ive ever had lol
]
(;B[lj]BL[30]OB[3]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: hmm what about
]
;W[ms]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[mi]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[el]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[em]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[ek]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[fm]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[dm]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[fk]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[fj]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[gk]BL[30]OB[3]
(;W[aj]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[aq]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[ak]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[bp]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[ni]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[mh]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[bq]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[rq]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[mk]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[bp]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[mp]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[ao]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[nq]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[qh]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[rh]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[ri]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[qg]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[ph]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ne]WL[30]OW[2]C[smonds3 [3d\]: thanks
Starstorm3 [4d\]: thanks!
Starstorm3 [4d\]: want to take a look?
smonds3 [3d\]: control on sec?
smonds3 [3d\]: just want to see one thing
smonds3 [3d\]: first before review
smonds3 [3d\]: should o15 sooner
Starstorm3 [4d\]: well very fun game overall
smonds3 [3d\]: but whtie still ahead
Starstorm3 [4d\]: yea
Starstorm3 [4d\]: we both made lots of mistakes lol
smonds3 [3d\]: next one will be better
Starstorm3 [4d\]: maybe not the game im going to show braekfast ;)
Starstorm3 [4d\]: absolutely!
smonds3 [3d\]: yes ;)
Starstorm3 [4d\]: till next time
Starstorm3 [4d\]: oh!
Starstorm3 [4d\]: and how do i report this one?
smonds3 [3d\]: take sgf
smonds3 [3d\]: and have it in a place
smonds3 [3d\]: ha
smonds3 [3d\]: okay . starting over
smonds3 [3d\]: go to insei league tables 
Starstorm3 [4d\]: k
smonds3 [3d\]: click on the coordinating box where your name and mine intersect
smonds3 [3d\]: and click on one of the "--"
smonds3 [3d\]: then load the sgf there and select winner
smonds3 [3d\]: code is "2010"
Starstorm3 [4d\]: ah alright
Starstorm3 [4d\]: what is the site again?
smonds3 [3d\]: password
smonds3 [3d\]: http://insei-league.com/league.php?l=A
smonds3 [3d\]: you can see everyones games by clicking the circle or X
smonds3 [3d\]: they are links to a viewer
smonds3 [3d\]: so you can watch group games
Starstorm3 [4d\]: ah great thanks!
])
(;W[gj]
;B[hk]
;W[hj]
;B[ij]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: i should play out all of them
Starstorm3 [4d\]: since they're not ko threats
Starstorm3 [4d\]: silly me
]))
(;B[ne]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: this
Starstorm3 [4d\]: and then R16
smonds3 [3d\]: yes
smonds3 [3d\]: hm
Starstorm3 [4d\]: but
Starstorm3 [4d\]: maybe i can live?
]
;W[ms]
;B[qd]
;W[qg]
;B[ph]
;W[re]
;B[rd]
;W[rj]
;B[rh]
;W[qh]
(;B[rm]C[smonds3 [3d\]: not also in corner but dies anyway
])
(;B[rk]
;W[rg]
;B[rb]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: complex
]
;W[mb])))
(;B[jr]
;W[hs]C[smonds3 [3d\]: your cttrl
]
;B[fs]
;W[gs]
(;B[js]
;W[fr]
;B[hr]
;W[es]
;B[is]
;W[ds]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: oh
Starstorm3 [4d\]: lol
Starstorm3 [4d\]: nvm
])
(;B[fr]
;W[gr]
;B[js]
;W[is]
;B[nl]
(;W[nk]
;B[lk]
;W[mk]
;B[ni]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: this?
smonds3 [3d\]: no because
smonds3 [3d\]: ctrl?
])
(;W[lj]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: ?
]
;B[nk]
;W[ki]
;B[ji]
;W[kk]
;B[jj]C[smonds3 [3d\]: sorry
smonds3 [3d\]: sorry
smonds3 [3d\]: i
]))))
(;W[jk]
;B[km]
;W[kl]
;B[jm]
;W[kk]C[smonds3 [3d\]: no
]
;B[ln]C[smonds3 [3d\]: now i am ;)
]))
(;W[ql]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: this is probably fine for me
])
(;W[qk]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: actually
Starstorm3 [4d\]: this probably more solid
]
;B[ok]
;W[jk]))
(;B[bd]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: yea
Starstorm3 [4d\]: C15
smonds3 [3d\]: i new this
smonds3 [3d\]: but kinda brain slip
Starstorm3 [4d\]: it happens
smonds3 [3d\]: immediatly i went. "nooo!
]
;W[ce]
;B[ca]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: yup
Starstorm3 [4d\]: D19
]
;W[da]
;B[fb]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: now it gets fun
smonds3 [3d\]: yup
smonds3 [3d\]: so big a fail....
smonds3 [3d\]: if black can win the lower left
smonds3 [3d\]: and get this ko
smonds3 [3d\]: its good
Starstorm3 [4d\]: i still have B4 aji
smonds3 [3d\]: but to just die...
smonds3 [3d\]: i responded wrong
smonds3 [3d\]: i don't know if you can live
]
;W[ap]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: i think it's hard to stop ko at least
]
;B[cn]C[smonds3 [3d\]: just this
Starstorm3 [4d\]: C5
]
;W[co]
;B[br]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: B6
]
(;W[an]
;B[bn]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: no B6
])
(;W[bn]
;B[an]C[smonds3 [3d\]: ?
Starstorm3 [4d\]: E6
]
(;W[dn])
(;W[en]
;B[ep]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: E8
]
;W[el]
;B[dn]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: D7
]
;W[dm]
;B[cm]
;W[em]
;B[ek]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: just cut
]
;W[fk]
(;B[ej]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: ladder/
]
;W[fj]
;B[ei]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: F11
]
(;W[eh]
;B[fi]
;W[gi]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: earlier
]
;B[fh]
;W[fg]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: ehh??
]
;B[gh]
;W[hh]
;B[gg]
;W[gf]
;B[hg]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: whoa whoa
]
;W[ig]
;B[hf]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: nnonono
])
(;W[fi]
;B[eh]
;W[fh]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: yea
smonds3 [3d\]: oh ha
]))
(;B[ar]
;W[aj]
;B[aq]
;W[ak]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: not infinite
smonds3 [3d\]: or upper left
Starstorm3 [4d\]: each time you give me another capture you give me points
smonds3 [3d\]: i'm so sad how i played
Starstorm3 [4d\]: well i wouldnt do this
smonds3 [3d\]: of course
Starstorm3 [4d\]: until the upper left
Starstorm3 [4d\]: was solved
]
;B[bp]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: ko
Starstorm3 [4d\]: which is what i wanted
smonds3 [3d\]: but black infinite ko threats?
smonds3 [3d\]: with ladder?
])))))
(;B[bq]
;W[em]
;B[el]
;W[cn]
;B[cq]
;W[bn]
;B[dp]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: big ko
smonds3 [3d\]: yes should have don't this
smonds3 [3d\]: picnic for b
Starstorm3 [4d\]: yup
]))
(;B[er]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: just this?
Starstorm3 [4d\]: much simpler
smonds3 [3d\]: i don't think it works
smonds3 [3d\]: you live
Starstorm3 [4d\]: W to play?
Starstorm3 [4d\]: oh
Starstorm3 [4d\]: well yea
smonds3 [3d\]: i'm going for the left
smonds3 [3d\]: not the bottom ;0
]))
(;W[bj]
;B[bi]
;W[aj]C[smonds3 [3d\]: sorry
smonds3 [3d\]: no no
smonds3 [3d\]: i gues so .
smonds3 [3d\]: hm
Starstorm3 [4d\]: damn so i cut the wrong side
]
(;B[ai]
;W[bl]
;B[ak]
;W[bm]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: B to play?
smonds3 [3d\]: other variations
smonds3 [3d\]: back
]
(;B[el]C[smonds3 [3d\]: b cannot
])
(;B[dh]C[smonds3 [3d\]: so bad for b
]
;W[eh]
;B[dg]
;W[el]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: yea
Starstorm3 [4d\]: man!
Starstorm3 [4d\]: this is fine for me
Starstorm3 [4d\]: bah!
smonds3 [3d\]: but b won't do this
]))
(;B[bm]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: ?
smonds3 [3d\]: yes
smonds3 [3d\]: or
smonds3 [3d\]: no
Starstorm3 [4d\]: then i still should have done this
smonds3 [3d\]: ctrl?
Starstorm3 [4d\]: not giving you ponnuki
])
(;B[bh]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: eh?
])))
(;B[fb]C[Starstorm3 [4d\]: this is annoying
]
;W[gb]
;B[fc]C[smonds3 [3d\]: of course
]
;W[fa]
;B[hd]C[smonds3 [3d\]: so bad to mis this..
Starstorm3 [4d\]: we both missed honte ;)
]))
(;W[fc]C[smonds3 [3d\]: this is only move i've seen.
smonds3 [3d\]: or:
Starstorm3 [4d\]: hmmm
smonds3 [3d\]: its good aji
smonds3 [3d\]: honte ;)
Starstorm3 [4d\]: yea
Starstorm3 [4d\]: i like it
])
(;W[ee]C[smonds3 [3d\]: also normal
Starstorm3 [4d\]: i disliked E15 here
Starstorm3 [4d\]: but F17 looks tempting actually
]))
(;B[fc]TR[mb][mc][md]C[smonds3 [3d\]: its to fight
smonds3 [3d\]: there are many moves
Starstorm3 [4d\]: yea
smonds3 [3d\]: only if i had stones here
Starstorm3 [4d\]: yea silly me not concentrating
smonds3 [3d\]: but
smonds3 [3d\]: also
]))
(;B[qg]
;W[re]
;B[ng]C[smonds3 [3d\]: i think e18 is old
Starstorm3 [4d\]: i really like this
smonds3 [3d\]: fashion 
Starstorm3 [4d\]: yea it is but P15 also old fashioned ;)
smonds3 [3d\]: yes r13 hard timing
]))
